Boat info?

Mike Nco
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Posted on 19 Jul 2010 - 10:10am

Hello

I'm after info about a boat that Dover Sea Cadet's has.

Some photos can be found here.. http://picasaweb.google.com/mikenco/CornishGaffRiggedBoat#

I have been told that it is a 'Cornish Fishing Boat'.. and that's it. After a little Googling, I *think* it might be a Picarooner?

Apparently, it was last sailed about 5 years ago, but we are not sure what to do with this boat, is it worth restoring?.. is worth anything in it's current condition if we just sold it for (desperately needed) funds.

Since these photos were taken, I have since refitted the mast and found more of what I believe is the correct rigging.

Any info about this boat would be appreciated.

Mike

Mike Nco
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Posted on 08 Oct 2010 - 3:03am

Thank you Geoff, It was really great to meet you... You already know that you got a boat that is potentially worth far more than you paid for it (and we, as a charity are very appreciative of the funds to continue what we do in return).  On a personal level, I am so jealous that you are in a position to restore the old gal. She is a Beaut (arn't they all?) and I know that'll you'll have to put the time in to make her great again,

I am so proud that she's "come home". please do keep us posted as to the progress of the restoration.

Kindest Regards

Mike
(Dover SCC)

Geoff Benton-Smith
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Posted on 03 Oct 2010 - 5:05pm

Have now trailed Mikes (Dover Sea Cadets) picarooner to Falmouth and have it sat on front lawn, soon to be rolled into garage to start refurb, lots of interesting stuff to play with and would appreciate  any info as to what/where/name etc, yes two picarooners in the family is a bit over the top, but I couldn't resist the challenge!!! 

Mike Nco
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Posted on 15 Sep 2010 - 9:09am

Hi Geoff

I have sent my details via email to you.

Kind Regards

Mike

Geoff Benton-Smith
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Posted on 14 Sep 2010 - 7:07pm

 

Mike 

Yes £500 sounds good, can you email (gbs2u@hotmail.com) me a telephone number so that I can speak with you about payment and collection etc, as you may have detected I'm down in Falmouth and I need to talk about when would be best to collect etc.

regards Geoff B-S

Mike Nco
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Posted on 07 Sep 2010 - 11:11am

Hi Geoff

I too haven't been on here for a few weeks. Yes, the old gal is still for sale, I have done nothing about marketing to this point. I could list the boat on eBay, but I'd rather it went to someone who knew what they were buying. Bearing in mind that the money is going to a very cause, would you offer £500 and we can call it a deal?

Kind Regards
Mike

Geoff Benton-Smith
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Posted on 06 Sep 2010 - 6:06pm

Sorry been out of internet land for a couple of weeks (holiday) has anything been decided about the old picarooner Mike?

Mike Nco
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Posted on 06 Aug 2010 - 9:09am

Thank you for the offer Geoff, I shall pass it on. It will most likely be monday when I shall be seeing the CO next, I'll get back to you Monday evening.

Mike

Geoff Benton-Smith
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Posted on 05 Aug 2010 - 8:08pm

Dear Mike

 

 Any G and L boat is worth saving! Until you decide what to do how about I start bidding with £300.00?

Graham Benson
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Posted on 05 Aug 2010 - 10:10am

The open boat forum (linked to the DCA) may have more info

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openboat/

 

Tim and Carolyn S...
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Posted on 23 Jul 2010 - 10:10am

hi Mike we have only had our Picarooner for a year so we are by no means experts on them. From all the pictures i have seen your boat is very unusual she has a Dagger board rather than a centre board and is a ketch with a mizzen, and no outboard well.

Is she an early experimental sailing  Picarooner made by Terry Heard or a conversion from Terry Heard built  launch by someone else? 

Have you seen Tony Nelsons picarooner website, he is trying to register all Picarooners www.polperro.co.uk/crinkers_homepage.htm

What is she worth? I noted on the internet that some one was inviting offers on a boat (not a Picarooner) The funds to go to the RNLI perhaps you coulds do the same to raise funds for the cadets. looking at the condition of her i would say anything over £250 , she will need a much work to make her seaworthy, but I think she would be worth saving.

Tim 

Mike Nco
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Posted on 22 Jul 2010 - 9:09pm

UPDATE: I have now found the boom and the boat is pretty much complete.

The Sea Cadet's Commanding Officer has made the decision that we don't have the funds to restore the boat and as such I am to find a buyer for it.

Any advice as to what it could be worth and any tips on how and where to advertise it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Mike

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Mike Nco
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Posted on 22 Jul 2010 - 1:01pm

Hi Tim

I'm not sure of the exact dimensions. However, I have been in touch since with the Great-grandson of Terence Heard who built this boat. He has confirmed that it is a Clovelly Picarooner.

It doesn't have a motor well, but there is an extended bracket on the stern to fit one. It does have a basic removable dagger board.

I have added further pictures to here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/mikenco/CornishGaffRiggedBoat#

As you can see, we don't have the rigging quite right yet and have yet to find the boom.

I guess that all I really still need to know if whether the thing is worth fixing up. Or more importantly, is it worth anything at all?

Mike

Tim and Carolyn S...
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Posted on 21 Jul 2010 - 9:09am

Hi what are the boats dimensions, length beam?

does it have an outboard well

A centreboard

Tim


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